微电网标准IEEE1901.2

IEEE Low-Frequency Narrow-Band Powerline Communications Working Group (WG)

Sponsored by the IEEE Communications Society

18-21 May 2010

Minutes

Chair: Jim LeClare

Meeting recorder: Noelle Humenick, IEEE-SA

DAY 1, 18 MAY 2010

1. Call to order

 The meeting was called to order at 9:20 am.  Jean Vigneron of ERDF welcomed the WG.  All present introduced their selves.

2. Roll call of entities: establish DRs and DRAs

 A roll call of entities was made (P1901.2_entity_roster_May10).  Voting cards were distributed.

3. Approval of agenda

 Michael Wilson, Gigle Networks, moved to approve the agenda as displayed

(1901.2_May2010_agenda_050410_v2) with a change to the start of lunch each day as 11:45 am. Scott Willy, SPiDCOM, seconded. Motion passed without objection.

4. Call for patents

 A call for potentially essential patents was made (pat-slideset). No patents were declared.

5. P1901.2 policies and procedures

 Noelle Humenick, IEEE-SA, presented the draft of proposed policies and procedures (P&P)

(P1901.2_Proposed_P_P_IEEE-SA, P1901.2_proposed_policies_procedures, and P1901.2_proposed_policies_procedures_diff_from_baseline).

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to undelete from the P&P diff file the words: “or at a meeting”

under 7.2, Election of officers. Markus Rindchen, Power Plus, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

 Michael Koch, devolo, moved to lower the quorum requirement to 1/3 of voting membership.

Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, seconded.

o Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, moved to table this motion until later in the meeting. Scott Willy,

SPiDCOM, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to approve

P1901.2_proposed_policies_procedures_diff_from_baseline_v2. Rob Ranck, HomePlug seconded.

o Neal King, Lantiq, moved to table this motion. No second.

o Oleg’s motion vote: Motion passed without opposition.

Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to amend the agenda so that the WG immediately would hear the presentation regarding IEEE services. Scott Willy, SPiDCOM seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

6. IEEE-SA services and budget

 Noelle Humenick, IEEE-SA, presented an IEEE-SA services proposal (P1901.2_services)

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to adopt the IEEE Project Acceleration Package as presented by

Noelle Humenick, IEEE-SA, in lieu of election of a secretary and treasurer. Michael Navid, Maxim, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

7. P1901.2 Operations manual

 Noelle Humenick, IEEE-SA, presented the proposed Operations manual

(P1901.2_Proposed_OpsMan_IEEE-SA, P1901.2_proposed_Operations_Manual).

 Jeremy Hisch, ERDF, moved to change the approval threshold of technical decisions to 60% (rather

than two-thirds). Michael Navid, Maxim, seconded.

o Michael Wilson, Gigle Networks, moved to cease debate. Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded.

Motion passed without opposition.

o Jeremy’s motion vote: 1 in favor, 13 against, 6 abstentions. Motion failed.

 Neal King, Lantiq, moved to maintain the Robert’s Rules threshold to cease debate. No second.  Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, moved to approve the Operations Manual as presented

(P1901.2_proposed_Operations_Manual). Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

8. P1901.2 officers  Technical writer

o Chair LeClare called for volunteers to act as the technical writer. Neal King, Lantiq, and

Roberto Cappelletti, ST Micro, volunteered.

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to form a technical writing subgroup. Michael Koch, devolo,

seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

o Chair LeClare will work with the volunteers to bring a chair appointment, scope, and duties

proposal to the WG later in the meeting.

 Temporary appointment of Vice-chair

o Michael Wilson, Gigle Networks, moved to recommend the Chair to temporarily appoint

Oleg Logvinov as the vice-chair. Roberto Cappelletti, ST Micro, seconded. 10 in favor, 7 against, 5 abstained. Motion passed.

o Chair LeClare declined to make an immediate temporary appointment of the vice-chair.

 Appointment of election officer / schedule for election

o Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, moved to hold a vice-chair election on 18 May 2010. Michael Koch,

devolo, seconded.

 Neal King moved to amend that the vote be a secret ballot. Michael Navid, Maxim,

seconded. 8 in favor, 12 against, 3 abstained. Motion failed

o Chair LeClare called for nominations for the position of vice-chair. The following individuals

were nominated:

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados  Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom

 Approval voting:  Oleg: 15  Gilles: 8

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, was elected as vice-chair based upon the results of approval

voting. The election results will be forwarded to the sponsor for confirmation.

9. Schedule for draft completion

 Chair LeClare stated his expectations for completion. There is much work in this technical area

already completed that can be leveraged.

 He suggested that 18 months from the first WG meeting, the document will be submitted for

sponsor ballot.

10. Scope and PAR Review

 Weilin Liu, Current, presented P1901.2_May10_OPEN_METER_Current.

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to direct the chair to work with Open Meter to establish an

appropriate relationship that would facilitate collaboration. Alfredo Sanz, ADD Semiconductor, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

 Gordon Gregg, Aclara, presented P1901.2_May10_PAR Scope_Proposed changes_Aclara,

P1901.2_May10_ArchitectureIssues_Aclara, and P1901.2_May10_TechniqueForNA_Aclara, and P1901.2_May10_CoexistenceInteroperability_Aclara.

The WG recessed at 4:55 am.

DAY 2, 19 MAY 2010

The WG was called to order at 9:00 am.

Chair LeClare asked if there were any objections to hearing contributions submitted after the deadline. No objections were raised.

11. Architectural issues

 Reference most applicable documents (NIST, alliances, existing standards, etc.)

o Chair LeClare listed, with the help of the WG, applicable related activities:

 NIST PAP 15  NIST PAP 11

ISO/IEC/SAE joint meeting

SAE J2931 for Powerline in automotive SAE J2847 SAE J2836 Open Meter G.hnem

DLC-VIT4IP, http://www.dlc-vit4ip.org/ IEEE P2030

 Call for papers for Oct re Smart Grid, Guide for Interoperability  D2 just released

 IPSO, www.ipso-alliance.org  CENELEC, TC 13, SC205A  CENELEC, TC 210  EPRI use cases  IEC TC57

 Prime Alliance, http://www.prime-alliance.org/portals/0/specs/PRIME-Spec_v1_3_A_201005.pdf  HomePlug Powerline Alliance

 Smart Energy profiles SEP2, www.ucaiug.org  IEC 69 WG4

 Proposed network architecture (access network, HAN, ESI, PEV). Coordinators, end points, interfaces,

domains, etc.

o Chair LeClare made a short summary of the future work around PEV.

 JP Vasseur, Cisco, presented P1901.2_May10_IPinPLCBasedNetworkSystems_Cisco.

By general consent the agenda was changed to have lunch 12:00-1:00 pm on 19 May 2010.

 Alfredo Sanz, ADD Semiconductor, presented P1901.2_PPT_ADD_A Sanz_01

 Roberto Cappelletti, ST Micro, presented P1901.2_May10_PRIME_baseline_STMicro

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to adopt PRIME as the baseline for P1901.2. Purva Rajkotia,

Atheros, seconded.

 Chair LeClare ruled this motion out of order, given that:

 The presentation in progress was received late, and the WG did not have an

appropriate amount of time to review,

 There were a number of presentations on the agenda that were not yet made,  It is too early in the WG’s progress to make such a decision.

 Ronen Gazit, Yitran Communications, presented

P1901.2_May10_ChannelNoiseModelTrafficRequiements_Yitran and P1901 2_May10_ChannelNoiseTraffic_Yitran.

 Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, presented P1901.2_May10_G3-plc_overview_Maxim.

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 Nicolas Pigeon, Sagemcom Energy & Telecom, presented

P1901.2_May10_OFDM_G3_overPLC_Sagemcom.

 JP Vasseur, Cisco, moved to adopt IPv6, RPL, and adaptation layer between PHY/MAC and IPv6. Paul

Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.

o Rob Ranck, HomePlug, moved to replace the words “between PHY/MAC and IPv6” with “above

PHY/MAC”. Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded.

Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to extend the meeting time to 6:30 pm. Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, seconded. 4 against, 13 in favor, 3 abstained. Motion passed.

o Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, moved to amend JP Vasseur’s motion to read: “to define an adaptation

layer in the MAC that supports IPv6 and RPL”. Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded.

o Rob Ranck, HomePlug, moved to cease debate. Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded. Motion

passed without opposition.

 Kaveh’s amendment vote: 16 in favor, 3 against, 4 abstained. Motion passed.

o Amended motion now reads: …moved to define an adaptation layer in the MAC that supports

IPv6 and RPL.

 Michael Wilson, Gigle Networks, moved to change “IPv6” to “the full feature set of IPv6

as one option.” Markus Rindchen, PowerPlus, seconded.

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to send Michael Wilson’s motion to an ad-hoc

committee with the task of returning proposed consensus-based language by 11:00 am on 20 May 2010. Vijay Dhingra, Echelon, seconded. 15 in favor, 3 against, 4 abstained. Motion passed.

DAY 3, 20 MAY 2010

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to change the agenda to address Architectural Issues and then move

directly to Use Cases agenda item. Scott Willy, SPiDCOM, seconded.

o Neal King, Lantiq, moved to amend this motion so that “Architectural Issues” is replaced with

“Architectural Issues of IPv6”. Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom Energy & Telecom, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

o Amended motion: to change the agenda to address Architectural Issues of IPv6 and then move

directly to Use Cases agenda item.

o Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, moved to add after “Architectural Issues of IPv6” and “limiting the

time for discussion to 30 minutes on this agenda item” Scott Willy, SPiDCOM, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

o Resulting motion: to change the agenda to address Architectural Issues of IPv6 limiting the time

for discussion to 30 minutes on this agenda item and then move directly to Use Cases agenda item. Motion passed without opposition.

 The ad-hoc committee related to IPv6 brought forward the following motion.

 JP Vasseur, Cisco, moved that the SAP (Service Access Point) of the P1901.2 MAC shall support

appropriate (TBD) IPv6 features and shall support interface with RPL. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.

 Chair LeClare stated that this new motion was a replacement of the motion from the previous day

and consulted the WG on how to dispose of the earlier motion. It was determined that the will of the group was to withdraw the original motion and consider new wording.

 JP Vasseur, Cisco, moved to withdraw the original motion of: “JP, Cisco, moved to adopt IPv6, RPL,

and adaptation layer between PHY/MAC and IPv6. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.”Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded. Motion passed without opposition.

o The chair stated that his interpretation of the motion under consideration is that adopting this

motion does not create a situation of exclusivity for IPv6 and RPL features.

 JP’s motion vote: “JP, Cisco, moved that the SAP (Service Access Point) of the P1901.2 MAC shall

support appropriate (TBD) IPv6 features and shall support interface with RPL. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.” Motion passed without opposition.

12. IEEE P1901.2 Use Cases  Requirements

 Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, moved that the WG avoid making a decision about technology solutions

until after production of market requirement definition (MRD) and acceptance by at least end users (who are members of this WG) and equipment providers to end users (who are members of this WG). Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, seconded.

o Scott Willy, SPIDCOM, called orders of the day.

13. Start of Technical presentations on:

1. Techniques for Communication on Power Line 2. Modulation Scheme 3. Channel Modeling 4. FEC Scheme

5. Regulatory Compliance 6. Operating Frequencies 7. EMC Requirements 8. Coexistence

 Dimitri Hochard, eTec, presented P1901.2_May10_etecLFNB_G3_OFDM_PLC_250A_

TestResults_Maxim.ppt.

 Amir Kamalizad, Maxim, presented IEEE_P1901.2_Maxim_FEC.pdf and

IEEE_P1901.2_Maxim_Preamble.pdf

 Amir Kamalizad, Maxim, presented P1901.2_May10_G3_FEC_Maxim.

 Roberto Cappelletti, ST Micro, stated that his presentations regarding Prime were covered by

Alfredo Sanz, ADD, on the previous day, and thus he chose to not make the ST Micro presentations.

 Inigo Berganza, Iberdrola, moved that the baseline shall use OFDM (Orthogonal Frequency Division

Multiplexing) between 9-500 kHz. Jeremy Hisch, ERDF, seconded.

o Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, moved to add the word “operating” between “…Multiplexing)” and

“between”. Dimitri Hochard, Etec, seconded.

Chair LeClare called orders of the day.

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to change the agenda to add an agenda item to dispose of the

previous motion until the recess time of 5:30 pm. Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, seconded.

o Purva Rajkotia, Atheros, moved to cease debate. Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded. 15 in

favor, 2 against, 7 abstained. Motion passed.

 Motion to change the agenda vote: 12 in favor, 8 against, 4 abstained. Motion passed.

 Inigo Berganza, Iberdrola, moved that the baseline shall use OFDM (Orthogonal Frequency Division

Multiplexing) operating between 9-500 kHz. Jeremy, ERDF, seconded.

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to cease debate. Rob Ranck, HomePlug, seconded. 15 in

favor, 1 against, 8 abstained. Motion passed.

o Michael Koch, devolo, requested a roll call vote be taken on this motion. The chair granted

this request.

Roll Call Vote Accenture Aclara/Esco Technologies Inc. ADD Semiconductor Arkados, Inc Atheros Communications Cisco Current Technologies International devolo AG Echelon Corp EDF/ERDF eTec Gigle Networks HomePlug Powerline Alliance Iberdrola Itron Lantiq Maxim Power Plus Communications AG Sagemcom Energy & Telecom Schneider Electric SPiDCOM Technologies STMicroelectronics Sumitomo Electric Industries, Ltd. Texas Instruments Inc. Watteco Yitran Communication yes 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 no 1 1 1 1 1 1 abstained 1 1 1 1 Totals approval 66% required (yes/yes+no) 14 70% 6 4 The working group recessed at 5:30 pm.

DAY 4, 21 MAY 2010

The WG reconvened at 9:10 am.

Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to amend the agenda as follows: 9:15 EMC/technical presentations, 10:00 subgroup formation, 11:00 next meetings. Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded.

o Paul Bertrand, Watteco, moved to cease debate. Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, seconded. Motion

passed without opposition.

o Vote on Oleg’s motion: Motion passed without objection.

 Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, presented P1901.2_May10_etecLFNB_G3_OFDM_PLC_250A_

TestResults_Maxim.

 Michael Koch, devolo, presented P1901.2_May10_EMC_devolo.

14. Subgroup formation

 Paul Bertrand, Watteco, moved that the WG avoid taking any decisions about technology solutions

until a subgroup drafts a technical requirement document within the next two months (or less). Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded.

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to cease debate. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded. Motion

passed without opposition.

o Paul’s motion vote: Motion passed without opposition.

Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to extend the agenda item subgroup formation, until 11:50 am. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded. Motion passed without objection.

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to create an end-user technical Requirements subgroup focused on

gathering end-user technical requirements and developing use cases. I recommend Gilles as a chair of the subgroup. Kaveh Razazian, Maxim, seconded.

o Chair LeClare stated that this subgroup is meant as the subgroup referred to in this motion:

“Paul Bertrand, Watteco, moved that the WG avoid taking any decisions about technology solutions until a subgroup drafts a technical requirement document within the next two months (or less). Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded. “ o Oleg’s motion vote: Motion passed without opposition.

 Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, move to create a PHY/MAC Development subgroup focused on defining a

PHY/MAC specification using PRIME and G3 as a starting point of the development. I recommend Jim LeClare as a chair of the subgroup. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.

o Paul Bertrand, Watteco, moved to cease debate. Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded. 11 in

favor, 1 against, 1 abstained. Motion passed.

o Gilles motion vote: 12 in favor, 1 against, 1 abstained Motion passed.

 Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to create a SAP Definition subgroup that shall define data and

control plane specification. This group shall also identify additional protocol stacks that have to be supported by SAP. This SG shall also implement what was reflected in the motion (“JP, Cisco,

moved that the SAP (Service Access Point) of the P1901.2 MAC shall support appropriate (TBD) IPv6 features and shall support interface with RPL. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.” Motion passed without opposition.) approved by the WG previously in this meeting. And recommend JP as a chair. Paul Bertrand, Watteco, seconded.

o Oleg Logvinov, Arkados, moved to cease debate. Gilles Fouche, Sagemcom, seconded.

Motion passed without opposition.

o Oleg’s motion vote: Motion passed without opposition.

 Chair LeClare stated that he will act as a coordination point to ensure no overlap between

subgroups.

 The next WG meeting will be decided by the chair, based upon feedback gathered from WG

members.

The WG adjourned at 12:00 pm.